Student Gets Tazed For Not Having ID - BREAK.com
Student Gets Tazed For Not Having ID - BREAK.com
Student doesn’t have his ID card while in the library, gets hit with a taser. Offers to leave, gets hit again. Is in too much pain to stand up, gets hit again. Really in some pain now, gets hit again. Other students attempt to reason with the brain damaged campus security into NOT FUCKING HITTING HIM WITH THE TASER AGAIN. One student keeps asking for badge numbers because of this blatant abuse and is ignored completely. Another doing the same thing gets threatened with her own round of taser love if she kept asking. Luckily quite a few of their faces are in this video, this kid’s lawyer is going to have a field day with this one.
This video is exactly why I do not, have never, and will never have any respect for any college campus security. This message to all campus security everywhere: You are not real cops. I know real cops. You are all either wannabes or washouts. You do not deserve respect, you do not deserve my obedience in any way, shape, or form. Every single one of you whom I have ever had the misfortune of dealing with acted like you were king fuck of shit mountain. I hate to burst your bubble but you guys rank below minimum wage Rent-A-Cops on the law enforcement importance scale.
College campus security is where you go when you can’t cut it as a REAL law enforcement officer. I hope every one of the fuckers in this video are forced to eat a taser 5 times in a row back to back. I also hope this kid sues the shit out of the school, the campus security division, and every one of these fuckers personally.
Such complete bullshit, to think in this day and age not having your student ID card is such a high ranking criminal offense that it gets you a half a dozen taser blasts from a small battalion of “officers” long before you meet the judge. I don’t care if this dude punched one of these chicken fuckers in the nose (which he obviously didn’t else I am 100% sure that he would have been clubbed into submission), you do not hit someone with a taser multiple times and expect them to be able to just jump right up to their feet like it never happened.
Edit:
I shall add that while I am sure that this kid didn’t listen when told to present his ID card, even the report written by the very campus security who did this travesty admitted that he was not aggressive in the least…. they just decided to tase him.
adding links: http://dailybruin.com/news/articles.asp?id=38960 and http://dailybruin.com/news/articles.asp?id=38958
November 17th, 2006 at 9:57 am
The wonderful thing about tazers is that as soon as the gun stops its 5 second burst (Law Enforcement Version) you are fully capable of anything you were fully capable of before you were tazed. Asking the student to stand up after being exposed to such a device was un-reasonable, instead they should have instructed him to lay on his belly and then escort him wherever.
“But according to a study published in the Lancet Medical Journal in 2001, a charge of three to five seconds can result in immobilization for five to 15 minutes”
Having experienced the tazer myself for the longest five seconds of my life I can attest to you that this is un-true. I don’t care about any study. They are all bias in some way. Show me one study I can show you one in complete objection.
Also note that the Drive Stun technique that the officers used, while painful, is not even close to being as painful as getting shot with one of these things. The tazer is a form of pain compliance, it is classified as “Less Lethal”. The “Less Lethal” prase alone should tell anyone what kind thing its meant for. Its not a device to be use carelessly. I do have to agree with you that what theses officers did was wrong. If the student was acting on “passive resistance” the tazer should not have been part of the picture. Use of force is tought to all real officers. I’m unsure of the training that these officers went through, but if the suspect was simply “limp” then carying him out would have been the proper use of force.
Now about the “What is your badge number?” comments int the article. If someone is behaving in a manner that is obstructing the officer from performing his duties then there is a problem, epically if the person asking is grabbing the officer. No officer is going to stop everything he is doing to turn and say “Hi, my names is Officer so-n-so, my badge number is 5346.” After the incident is over those questions may by addressed.
The video is not one that shows the entire picture either, the majority of the footage is not even pointed toward the incident in question and nothing is shown regarding the start of the incident. Might I also point out that the claims in the articles that you posted are from the student paper and is extreamly bias.
“According to an ACLU report, 148 people in the United States and Canada have died as a result of the use of Tasers since 1999.”
What that report did not include was the fact that the majority of those incidents also involved drugs, and many other circumstances that are imposable to take into consideration when a subject is fighting the police. No one says “Oh, excuse me officer I have a heart condition and I have just shot myself up with a very large amount of methamphetamines, making my heart very un-steady at the moment, please do not shoot me with that tazer.”
Please understand me I’m not defending the Officers actions, I an however trying to defent the tazer when its properly used and point out the fact that the evidence that the public has (including the video) might not show the entire story. Like football footage, a million people can see something clear as day and have seen it a million different ways.
November 17th, 2006 at 2:21 pm
Oh dont get me wrong, my rant is not against tasers. I fully support their use …. when the situation warrants it. Since we can’t see the beginning of the incident in full as it starts well before the camera was rolling, I can’t honestly say that hitting him with it once wasn’t warranted. My problem is with the “officers” hitting him repeatedly with it and it taking a half a dozen of them to get him out of the library. Once the cuffs were on him it would have only taken a couple of them to drag his ass outside.
I love tasers, they are a a great tool when used properly. This is a glaring example of why I don’t like campus cops, I have a hard time believing that a group of REAL law enforcement officers would have had this much trouble with the guy. I have a hard time believing half a dozen men were necessary. I also have a hard time believing that the people asking for badge numbers were interfering in any way other than verbally else they would have been beaten with a baton or zapped with the taser themselves. Interfering in the “officer’s” work might be wrong, but so is threatening to do harm to a random member of the public.
Every one of these fuckers should be at the very least suspended without pay. This was completely uncalled for. My viewpoint would be drastically different if the kid had actually started an altercation with them, I would say “take him out” in that case. This was purely passive and could have been dealt with in a MUCH more professional manner which didn’t constitute a BLATANT abuse of authority.
Again, this is why I have no respect for campus “cops”. Thusfar none have given me any reason to view them in any light other than armed bully.
November 17th, 2006 at 3:15 pm
Blatant abuse of ones authority happens in a lot of cases, unfortunately real life is not fair. (Just look how bar Bush has taken his authority to warrantless wire-taps, and captivity of suspected terrorists.) We don’t hear about the numerous times these guys do their job well and professionally.
What these guys did might have been wrong, we can’t tell, I would love to see the footage from of the security cameras that might have captured the event in its entirety, but I doubt that will happen. I do have to say that from what I can tell mistakes were made but I seriously doubt that much training or use of force knowledge was passed off to these guys with their uniforms.
Don’t judge ALL campus security officers on the actions of a few officers. A lot of fine and upstanding officers start out as campus security (maby not these guys) but law enforcement is a very hard field to get started in (unless you live in New Orleans) and many people take exactly what they can get to get their foot in the door.
November 17th, 2006 at 4:03 pm
The problem is as I said, thusfar I have never had nor seen any dealings with campus security in which there was any reason to praise the “officer”. I will give you that I personally can only attest to happenings at SEMO and SIC of which I witnessed. At SIC the entire program was flawed from the start, hiring and deputizing students who were in the law enforcement program and then giving them any form of power.
Remember when one of them chased someone down on route 13 to pull them over for speeding while he was not on duty, not wearing a uniform, and driving his own car thereby having to drive FASTER than the person he was trying to catch? Another one spent more time driving the squad car around clocking drivers on College Drive instead of spending any time patrolling the hallways.
Now the situation was better at SEMO IMO, students weren’t officers. I won’t get into everything here, and I will give some of the SEMO boys the benefit of the doubt because I pretty much only ever had contact with two of them (and I have no idea how many there were at the time). Of course only at Show-Me Center events did anything ever happen on campus for the most part. 3 out of 4 times it didn’t involve students as much as parents/spectators when it did. One of the bigger fights I saw had to be broken up by either the city or county cops, the campus cops couldn’t control it at all. I suppose the people involved in the altercation had much the same opinion campus vs city/county as I do.
November 17th, 2006 at 4:20 pm
First I would like to say that I think it was unnecessary for three reasons. One in the end they carried him out anyways why couldn’t they do that after having the cuffs on? Second three more time after the cuffs where on whats that all about. Not like he was taking a swing at them. Third from eye witnesses at the library he was leaving when the cops stopped him.
I have to say like everything else in the world I would think that the taser gun would effect everyone different and considering that it takes only a small amount of current to kill someone and the fact that the taser gun uses about 1amp of current it could kill someone.
November 17th, 2006 at 11:39 pm
I would like to state that I have complete faith in the current security officers at SIC and that all of the past situations with said department have been resolved. :) that is all
November 19th, 2006 at 10:01 pm
the current security officers are a 3rd party contract is my understanding
November 19th, 2006 at 10:03 pm
i just remembered i know one of the current SIC security people. she is relaxed and groovy though ;}